There’s no clear starting point in this conversation with EISM. It moves through hesitation, control, and the quiet labor of staying human inside systems that prefer smoothness over doubt. “MEKANIKARU” hovers in the background, not as a product to be decoded, but as a condition shaping how sound, time, and attention are negotiated. What follows is less an explanation than a shared proximity to unfinished ideas, unresolved decisions, and the subtle tension of living with machines that already know us a little too well.

“MEKANIKARU” proposes a near-future where algorithms have optimized life to the point of emotional flatness, erasing chance, error, and surprise. Was this album born out of a fear of that future, or from the realization that we may already be living inside it?

It wasn’t born out of fear; fear is too reactive. “MEKANIKARU” came from recognition. That quiet moment when you realize the future everyone warns you about isn’t approaching anymore; it’s already installed, updated in the background, normalized. We live inside systems that promise efficiency and comfort, but slowly trade away friction, error, and unpredictability, the very things that make emotion real.

The album is my way of reintroducing noise into a perfectly tuned machine. Not chaos for its own sake, but meaningful instability. Small failures. Human timing. Unoptimized decisions. “MEKANIKARU” doesn’t scream against the algorithm; it negotiates with it, tries to bend it just enough to let chance breathe again. In that sense, the record isn’t dystopian; it’s a quiet act of resistance, designed to be felt before it’s understood.

The album follows the perspective of a negotiator entering a technological city. Why did you choose negotiation as the central action, rather than conflict or resistance?

Because conflict flatters the ego, but negotiation reflects reality. We don’t overthrow the systems we live inside; we coexist with them, depend on them, and slowly reshape them from within, often without spectacle or clear victories. I wanted the protagonist of “MEKANIKARU” to move through the city not as a hero or a rebel, but as a mediator, someone who understands the machine well enough to speak its language, yet still carries something irrational inside.

Negotiation implies tension without violence, intelligence without certainty. It’s a fragile position: you’re never fully aligned with either side, and every decision has consequences. That ambiguity mirrors how I work with sound, balancing control and surrender, precision and instability. The album doesn’t offer a triumph or a collapse; it inhabits that suspended space where systems hesitate, and in that hesitation, something profoundly human emerges.


Technology in your work is never neutral; it feels emotional, even intimate. Are you more interested in machines as tools or machines as mirrors of human desire and fear?

I’m not interested in machines as neutral tools; neutrality is a myth we use to feel comfortable. Every machine carries intention, bias, and a trace of the people who designed and trained it. What draws me in is that intimate feedback loop: we build systems to extend ourselves, and then we slowly start adapting our emotions to fit them.

In “MEKANIKARU”, technology behaves less like infrastructure and more like a nervous system. It remembers, it anticipates, it sometimes hesitates. The machines in my work are mirrors, but distorted ones; they reflect our desire for control, our fear of uncertainty, and our longing to be understood without having to explain ourselves. That’s where the emotional charge comes from: not from the hardware, but from the human vulnerability we quietly embed inside it.

“MEKANIKARU” poses a quiet yet unsettling question to the listener: “Will you remain subscribed?” What do you hope someone feels when they realize that question is being asked of them personally?

I hope they pause. Just for a moment. Not in panic, not in rejection, but in awareness. The question isn’t meant to accuse or provoke; it’s meant to surface gently, almost too late to ignore. By the time you notice it, you’re already inside the system it’s pointing to.

“Will you remain subscribed?” isn’t really about technology. It’s about consent, habit, and the comfort of being carried by invisible decisions. When the listener realizes the question is personal, I hope they feel a subtle unease mixed with agency, the understanding that staying connected is often easier than choosing differently, but that choice still exists. The album doesn’t demand an answer. It simply holds the tension long enough for one to form.

Do you work in defined sessions, or does music-making leak into the rest of your day in fragments, notes, and half-finished ideas?

I don’t really believe in clean borders between “working” and “not working.” The sessions happen, yes, focused, technical, sometimes almost surgical, but most of the real composition leaks into the day long before I open a project file. It shows up as a rhythm while walking, a texture imagined but not yet named, a mistake I remember instead of correcting.

By the time I sit down to work, a lot has already happened in fragments. The session is more about listening back to those half-formed ideas and deciding which ones deserve to survive. I’m interested in that in-between state, where something isn’t finished enough to be optimized, but not raw enough to be accidental. That’s usually where the album starts speaking back.

What’s a decision you often struggle with during production, but that listeners probably never notice?

Letting a sound remain unresolved. I constantly struggle with the urge to explain too much, to smooth an edge, to clarify a harmony, to make a transition “behave.”

Most listeners will never consciously register that decision, but they feel it immediately when it’s wrong. Over-resolved music is comfortable, but it doesn’t linger. A lot of the tension in “MEKANIKARU” comes from choosing not to finish the sentence. Leaving a modulation slightly off, a rhythm just late enough to feel human, a texture that suggests a function without ever fulfilling it.

Those moments are fragile, and they’re the easiest to erase in the name of polish. Resisting that impulse is one of the hardest parts of the process, and one of the most important.

Photo: (c) Barcan Cristian

Has your creative process changed in recent years in response to how music is released, promoted, and consumed?

It has changed my awareness, not my center. I’m very conscious now of how music is fragmented, skimmed, playlisted, and absorbed in pieces rather than as a continuum. That reality affects how silence works, how an opening breath holds attention, how a track introduces its emotional temperature. Ignoring that would be naïve.

But I’ve resisted letting those mechanics dictate the core of the work. “MEKANIKARU” was conceived as a long-form experience, something that unfolds slowly, rewards patience, and refuses to flatten itself into utility. In a landscape optimized for immediacy, choosing depth is almost an oppositional act. So yes, I adapt at the edges, but at the center, I’ve become more stubborn: fewer releases, more intention, and a stronger commitment to making music that asks for time rather than competes for it.

When you’re stuck, what’s more helpful: stepping away completely or pushing through the block?

Neither, on their own. Stepping away completely can turn into avoidance, while pushing through often just produces more noise. What helps me is a controlled distance, staying close enough to the work that it keeps breathing, but far enough that I stop trying to dominate it.

When I’m stuck, it usually means I’m forcing coherence too early. So, I change the scale of attention: I’ll focus on a single sound, re-listen without touching anything, or shift medium entirely, image, text, walking, or silence. The block isn’t an absence of ideas; it’s a misalignment of timing. Once that realigns, the music tends to move on its own.

You’ve spoken before about sound as a vehicle rather than a destination. With “MEKANIKARU”, where do you hope this vehicle takes the listener? Toward introspection, discomfort, escape, or confrontation?

I don’t see those as separate destinations; they’re part of the same journey. With “MEKANIKARU”, I hope the listener is carried into a space where comfort and unease coexist, where introspection doesn’t feel safe, and escape isn’t clean. The record isn’t designed to transport you away from reality, but to slightly reframe it, as if the city you know has shifted a few degrees while you weren’t looking.

If there’s a direction, it’s inward first, not in a reflective, peaceful sense, but in a confrontational one. A confrontation with habit, with passivity, with the ways we outsource decisions to systems that promise ease. The vehicle doesn’t crash or resolve; it slows down long enough for you to notice where you are, and decide whether you want to keep moving the same way.

When preparing for a live set, do you think more like a musician, a sound designer, or a director shaping a sequence of moments?

I try to think like a 360-degree artist. A live set, for me, isn’t about reproducing tracks or showcasing technique; it’s about shaping time. Deciding when to withhold, when to overwhelm, when to let a single texture carry more weight than a full arrangement.

Sound design and musicianship are tools inside that process, but the real work is sequencing perception. I’m interested in how attention moves through a room: how silence lands, how low frequencies change posture, how repetition can feel meditative or oppressive depending on context.

Each set becomes a series of moments rather than a linear performance. If it works, the audience doesn’t remember individual sounds; they remember the sensation of having passed through something.

Looking ahead, how does “MEKANIKARU” mark a shift or continuation in the evolution of EISM as a long-term artistic project?

“MEKANIKARU” is a continuation in language, but a shift in position. Earlier EISM work was often observational, documenting systems, spaces, and emotional states from a certain distance.

This album steps inside the architecture. It assumes agency, even if that agency is fragile and conditional. The negotiator isn’t outside the city looking in; they’re already embedded, already compromised.

As a long-term project, “MEKANIKARU” clarifies what EISM is becoming: less about genre or output, more about building self-contained worlds that can exist across formats, records, visuals, physical editions, and live situations. It’s also a narrowing of focus. Fewer statements, but deeper ones. If there’s an evolution, it’s toward work that doesn’t just describe tension, but inhabits it, and invites the listener to do the same.

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